As many people now know, Magister Militum has launched a series of new 3mm lines:Ancients, Pike and Shot and early 18th century. They have massively expanded the options for 3mm gaming overnight and, curiously, haven't really bothered to publicize their new line.
I've been waiting for something like this for some time now, as I´ve always wanted to play Sam Mustafa's Maurice in 3mm. So when I heard about the new lines, I squeed more than a Japanese schoolgirl at a Cheap Trick concert. I ordered a bunch of 18 century stuff immediately.
I bought MM's
musketeers, cavalry and artillery in tricornes, because I wanted to
do some rather generic 18th century imaginations. Also
available are pikes in tricornes and 17th century cavalry,
which can still work as early 18th century heavy cavalry.
Like many people who are probably reading this, I wanted to see the
figures first hand before buying a lot of them. In particular, I
wanted to see how they compared to Oddzial Osmy's every-expanding and
excellent lines of 3mm miniatures. So I bought three packs of
infantry, two of cavalry and one of artillery.
Luckily, the
ever-gentlemanly Time Porter was on his way down to Rio de Janeiro on
business and agreed to carry the figs for me. This is the second time
Tim has done this and I really owe him something cool, because he's
had to deal with the Brazilian postal system twice now. Thank you
very, very much Tim! This has been a great present!
The good, the bad and the ugly
The good news is that the figures are perfectly acceptable. This worried me, as 3mm is a tricky scale to do. Marcin at O8 gets around most of the problems by casting in a hard zinc and aluminium alloy, which holds detail like no one's business. Unfortunately, it also has very little give and will break rather than bend.
MM has decided to cast in good ´ol lead alloy. They've gotten around
the problems this presents by making their figures noticeably more
chunky than O8´s. This is not necessarily a bad thing, especially
because the soft metal means they can be easily modified –
something one can´t say for O8´s miniatures. The pikes, of course,
are ridiculously thick, but if you are playing in micro- and
picoscales, you already know that some sacrifices must be made. If
you´re really anal-retentive, you can hack off MM´s pikes quite
easily and substitute piano wire. Sure, it'd be a hassle to do a
whole pike block or phalanx like this, but it could be done!
The bad news is that MM's figures are uneven in quality. The infantry
is quite good, if chunky: 8 figures on a 20mm frontage, with no space
between the figures versus O8's 10 figures on the same frontage,
with, if anything, too much space between the figures. I originally
didn´t like the cavalry much, but they´ve grown on me as I´ve
painted them. The one problem is that their heads seem far too big.
Perhaps this is due to the (understandable) desire to cast them with
identifiable tricornes, but the best adjective for the cavalry is
still “bobbleheaded”.
The artillery, however, is a crying shame. The cannon has no carriage, only a gun tube with two wheels attached to it. In fact, the whole thing looks like some sort of pornographic parody of a cannon, or perhaps a toy cannon. In any case, it is unacceptable. I don´t know why MM decided to go with this cast as it's not like it's difficult to model cannons at this scale. Furthermore, O8´s cannon won´t look good with MM's gunners, who also suffer from the same bobbleheadedness as the cavalry. Fortunately, one doesn´t need many artillery pieces for a game of Maurice and, because of MM's decision to go with a soft alloy, the artillery is easily modified. I sliced the wheels off of mine, stuck in some square plastic rod bits where the wheels used to be, then sliced off two thin sections of plastic tubing for new wheels. The result is perfectly acceptable on the tabletop and even looks OK close-up.
Be advised, however, that if you buy MM's artillery, you'll get this.
It looks even worse in real life than it does in this picture. All the doubts you have about that figure? They are all perfectly true. So if you don't want to mod your own cannons and don't want semi-pornographic artillery, you might want to wait until O8 releases 18th century figures or until MM recasts its crap artillery.
The artillery, however, is a crying shame. The cannon has no carriage, only a gun tube with two wheels attached to it. In fact, the whole thing looks like some sort of pornographic parody of a cannon, or perhaps a toy cannon. In any case, it is unacceptable. I don´t know why MM decided to go with this cast as it's not like it's difficult to model cannons at this scale. Furthermore, O8´s cannon won´t look good with MM's gunners, who also suffer from the same bobbleheadedness as the cavalry. Fortunately, one doesn´t need many artillery pieces for a game of Maurice and, because of MM's decision to go with a soft alloy, the artillery is easily modified. I sliced the wheels off of mine, stuck in some square plastic rod bits where the wheels used to be, then sliced off two thin sections of plastic tubing for new wheels. The result is perfectly acceptable on the tabletop and even looks OK close-up.
Be advised, however, that if you buy MM's artillery, you'll get this.
It looks even worse in real life than it does in this picture. All the doubts you have about that figure? They are all perfectly true. So if you don't want to mod your own cannons and don't want semi-pornographic artillery, you might want to wait until O8 releases 18th century figures or until MM recasts its crap artillery.
Artillery aside, these figures paint
up a treat. As the infantry is strip-mounted, you won´t be able to
cut it apart, as you can do with O8's stuff, in order to vary your
formations. I originally was going to put down three strips per base,
but it looked far too clunky with Maurice's 4 stand infantry units.
I've thus gone 2 strips per base and I am pleased with the result. The flags are, of course, mounted on
telephone poles and far too thick. They are easily clipped off and
replaced with paper flags, as you see here. My flags are hand
painted, but I might replace them with some laser-printed flags at
some point in the future.
One problem the infantry has (or maybe it's not a problem: YMMV): the figures are jammed together, but there's a millimeter of space on each end of the strip. If you put these on 20mm wide bases, there will be gaps between each infantry stand. You can, of course, file the base ends down flush with the soldiers and base on 18mm squares. This would be no problem for Maurice, which measures everything in base-widths, but other rules might suffer.
As you can see in the photos, I didn't file my bases down, so there are gaps between the stands.
One problem the infantry has (or maybe it's not a problem: YMMV): the figures are jammed together, but there's a millimeter of space on each end of the strip. If you put these on 20mm wide bases, there will be gaps between each infantry stand. You can, of course, file the base ends down flush with the soldiers and base on 18mm squares. This would be no problem for Maurice, which measures everything in base-widths, but other rules might suffer.
As you can see in the photos, I didn't file my bases down, so there are gaps between the stands.
Compatability with O8
There's good news and bad news here
as well. The bad news is that because of the figure style, it will be
somewhat jarring for you to place O8 heavy infantry or cavalry on the
same bases or in the same units as MM's stuff. However, they look
perfectly fine when based separately, especially if one uses O8's
stuff for irregular or light troops.
MM says they will have hussars and
grenadiers along presently. I don't think O8's stuff would make good
grenadier substitutes, but several of their figures do just fine for
light troops.
Here are some ACW Zouaves serving as generic Balkans or Turk-style light troops:
Here are busby-equipped chasseurs a cheval, doing excellent work as 18th century hussars. You can compare them with the bobbleheaded MM cavalry behind them. Not an outrageous difference:
Finally, here are ACW confederate skirmishers, painted as German-style jaegers or Freikorps:
Here are some ACW Zouaves serving as generic Balkans or Turk-style light troops:
Here are busby-equipped chasseurs a cheval, doing excellent work as 18th century hussars. You can compare them with the bobbleheaded MM cavalry behind them. Not an outrageous difference:
Finally, here are ACW confederate skirmishers, painted as German-style jaegers or Freikorps:
MM's bases are much thicker than O8's, so I found it necessary to slip in a piece of card under the latter's figures in order to bring their heads' level with the former's. As you can see, O8's stuff is much more delicate than MM's. The cavalry, in particular, is riding horses that are noticeably smaller. This is fine, however, if you want to model light cavalry. Not so good if you were hoping to use O8's stuff for other types of heavy cavalry.
The bottom line
If, like me, you want to play 18th
century warfare right now in 3mm and don't mind doing a bit of
hacking at the artillery, then place an order with Magister Militum.
If you prefer Oddzial Osmy's
delicate style (sometimes far too delicate – half of the Zouaves
popped off their bases while I was clipping them) and very fine
detail, or if the thought of modifying artillery pieces turns your
stomach, then you might want to wait until Marcin's crew bring out
their own 18th
century stuff.
I myself am perfectly happy with my purchase and will be buying MM's grenadiers and other offerings as soon as they come out.
Eye candy...
The initial regiments of my two imaginations: Saxe-Tübbio and Biche-Pliese.
The infantry of Landgravine Elza Pappen, of Biche-Pliese
The red-coated cavalry of Herzogin Heiline D´Taxis, of Saxe-Tübbio.
Two of Herzogin Heiline's regiments. Note that the stands are slightly less than 20mm wide. This means you'll have to cut your bases to 18-19mm if you want an unbroken line of infantry.
I myself am perfectly happy with my purchase and will be buying MM's grenadiers and other offerings as soon as they come out.
Eye candy...
The initial regiments of my two imaginations: Saxe-Tübbio and Biche-Pliese.
The infantry of Landgravine Elza Pappen, of Biche-Pliese
The red-coated cavalry of Herzogin Heiline D´Taxis, of Saxe-Tübbio.
Two of Herzogin Heiline's regiments. Note that the stands are slightly less than 20mm wide. This means you'll have to cut your bases to 18-19mm if you want an unbroken line of infantry.
Appreciate the reviews. Nice to see more 3mm, even if it's a bit uneven apparently.
ReplyDeleteGreat post and excellent review! Im excited to pick some of these guys up myself ASAP. Glad to hear they work with O8 within reason. I cant wait to knock out some 1:1-ish battalions with these guys.
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ReplyDeleteDear FMS,
I am really glad you like them as you set the standard for what's doable in 3mm!
Regarding your comments on TMP, I'm not sure about your plan to mod O8 bicornes. Frankly, I'd find it far more a hassle to model five tricornes per piece than to simply slice of the wheels and slip in a bit of block and a new wheel. But to each his own I guess.
One thing that's not very doable, to my mind -- and you might want to share this with the TMP crowd -- is to use MM gunners and O8 guns. the clash in styles is too noticeable on one stand, at least unpainted. Maybe painted it would pass, but I doubt it.
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ReplyDeleteI was kind of hoping they'd mix with Irregulars 2mm-ish blocks but looking at the pics both O8 and MM are much larger and better detailed so I think I'll stick with Irregular. Mainly as I already have some :)
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